Weaponsmith in the group . . . I have questions

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Michael
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Weaponsmith in the group . . . I have questions

Post by Michael » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:46 pm

So I have a new player joining the group as a weaponsmith. I'm sure there are going to be these questions asked so I thought I would start now

1: He wants to make blood pebble armor. Is that a knack? I know it says regular armor is under Craft Armor rules
2: The living armors like blood pebble says 'installed by a trained Weaponsmith'. Does that mean he needs a knack or special talent for that?

thanks

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Re: Weaponsmith in the group . . . I have questions

Post by JetBlackJoe » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:49 pm

Creating Living Armor is made with the Enchanting Rules and Craft Armor Skill. See the Companion p. 137 "Living Armor and Shields". No Knacks are needed, but the Weaponsmith does need the Enchanting Pattern.
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Re: Weaponsmith in the group . . . I have questions

Post by Michael » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:04 pm

thanks

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Re: Weaponsmith in the group . . . I have questions

Post by ChrisDDickey » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:29 am

I think all weaponsmiths are trained to install blood pebble as well.
Most don't have the pattern to make it, but any can remove it, forge it, and/or reinstall it.
And I think all of them can reactivate crystal armors and shields for a year without any special knowledge or knack.

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Re: Weaponsmith in the group . . . I have questions

Post by Michael » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:20 pm

so another question about weapon smiths and I guess elementalists

Crystal armors (and light crystals) require a yearly enchantment

For example, Crystal Plate:
The enchantments must be renewed each year at a cost of 2,000 silver pieces.
Who does that enchantment and is that something the players can learn? I know it's going to come up so might as well get ahead of it.

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Re: Weaponsmith in the group . . . I have questions

Post by ChrisDDickey » Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:40 pm

Michael wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:20 pm
Who does that enchantment and is that something the players can learn? I know it's going to come up so might as well get ahead of it.
It did come up, it was the exact question that was answered a week ago in the previous post.
Once harvested, living crystal stops growing and starts to go dormant, gradually losing the properties that make it so valuable. An alchemical enchantment can reawaken dormant crystal with no harm, even if the crystal has been dormant for an extended period of time, but this maintenance must be regularly renewed. If the crystal is incorporated into a blood charm or thread item, it draws sustenance from the user either directly through their blood, or through the thread.
There are no detailed rules in any of the books for this. The books specifically say that Weaponsmiths can do it. There are no knacks for doing it. It is assumed (but only assumed) that anybody who could make crystal armor via the Alchemy and Craft Armor skills can also renew the armor. A crafting pattern would not be necessary, just being a weaponsmith or having Alchemy and Craft Armor skills should be enough.

A GM could very reasonably apply skill or circle limits if he wanted to. For example even a circle 1 weaponsmith might be able to renew the crystal enchantment on a Crystal Raider shield, but a GM might want to rule that there was a higher requirement to renew the enchantment upon an entire set of Crystal Plate armor. Or the GM might also reasonably not impose such a ruling.

Again, the rules do not specifically address this, but in accordance with the general rules on enchanting, it might be assumed that 1/2 of the cost of renewing living crystals enchantment is consumed in necessary alchemical supplies, and thus would have to be supplied/paid even by a PC weaponsmith.

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Re: Weaponsmith in the group . . . I have questions

Post by Michael » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:50 pm

I like the 50% discount, that sounds fair.

I'm not sure if I fully understand, does a weaponsmith have to buy the enchanting pattern (or whatever it is ) to make say crystal plate?

So if the WS does, I guess that would mean they would know the enchant

thanks

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